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I understand there is an aftermarket part to correct the ridiculous low RPM throttle response, but I do not think I should have to spend over $200 to fix something that Dodge should have made function properly in the first place. Im sure there are other manual transmission owners that feel the same. What can we do to persuade Dodge to remap the throttle by wire functionality?
 

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Sorry but it's a common term know as "turbo lag", every turbo engine has it. Yes you can purchase aftermarket performance upgrades to help eliminate this though. Didn't you notice it on the test drive?
 

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This is my 3rd turbo vehicle, I know what turbo lag is and that is not what I'm referring to.
Although it's a small displacement engine, it should have much better power before the turbo spools up. It is absolutely the settings of the module which is further proven by the fact that there is an aftermarket part that corrects the issue.

So my point remains that Dodge really should adjust the factory module for us instead of having to spend well over $200 to fix a flaw.

On the test drive, I thought I just wasn't used to to the no-feel clutch and generally getting used to a new/different vehicle.
 

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Agreed

I totally agree with you. I have the turbo/6spd Auto and the same low rpm lag is there too. I thought it would get better over time, but after 1000 miles, it hasn't. I think its so bad that it's downright dangerous, especially when merging into traffic or making a right turn on to an inclined road.
What can be done?
 

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If everyone who has this problem were to post on this thread, we could send it to Dodge and hopefully they would post a TSB...??
 

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It is indeed turbo lag...my recommendation is swap out your intercooler piping for the new Injen set...it takes out all the stupid crazy bends and has no lag whatsoever in throttle response.
 

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it happens on the non turbo engine also.

If I buy the piping and it's still there, you'll send me the cost of the piping ya? ;P

In fact, I am ordering the injen intake system and intercooler piping so I will report back when I gain better sound, a couple of HP and still have throttle potentiometer lag..
 

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And if it is turbo lag, which is present on all turbocharged engines and is not what I am referring to, it would mean that this 2013 high tech. Fiat 1.3L is about 1/2 as powerful without its' turbo as my 1975 Honda civic 1.3L which ran on a carburetor with point and condenser and had all of 52HP! LOL!!
 

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it happens on the non turbo engine also.

If I buy the piping and it's still there, you'll send me the cost of the piping ya? ;P

In fact, I am ordering the injen intake system and intercooler piping so I will report back when I gain better sound, a couple of HP and still have throttle potentiometer lag..
hahaha well it worked for me and I'm sure it will for you! Like a whole new vehicle
 

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This is my first post, so be gentle. Chrysler probably did this for better fuel economy and the Dart isnt meant to be a sports car.
 

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it happens on the non turbo engine also.

If I buy the piping and it's still there, you'll send me the cost of the piping ya? ;P

In fact, I am ordering the injen intake system and intercooler piping so I will report back when I gain better sound, a couple of HP and still have throttle potentiometer lag..
Cool, let me know where you're ordering it from. If it works for you, I'll be ordering it also.
 

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This is my first post, so be gentle. Chrysler probably did this for better fuel economy and the Dart isnt meant to be a sports car.
Valid point.

I ordered the intake yesterday and am trying to decided between the injen or MPX intercooler pipes. This will be interesting. But I just cant swallow buying an aftermarket module to correct throttle response.
 

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I would go with the MPx piping. They have been around a while and I like Modern Performance. I used that company with my 1995 Neon 2.2 build. Bought top and bottom kit w/ flat top pistons & Eagle rods, bored the block to get the 2.2. Also, all of the standard bold ons I/H/E, Ignition, 58mmTB, Mopar PCM, 24lbs injectors. That thing would scream. So, I would same the money and buy the MPx version.
 

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Valid point.

I ordered the intake yesterday and am trying to decided between the injen or MPX intercooler pipes. This will be interesting. But I just cant swallow buying an aftermarket module to correct throttle response.

Who are you ordering from?
 

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it happens on the non turbo engine also.

If I buy the piping and it's still there, you'll send me the cost of the piping ya? ;P

In fact, I am ordering the injen intake system and intercooler piping so I will report back when I gain better sound, a couple of HP and still have throttle potentiometer lag..
I am looking to do the same mods as well as a cat back exhaust. Do you think this will void my warranty?
 

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My Limited 4 banger turbo has the same lag. I will be getting her blood transfused on wed. next week and the lag checked out. It is dangerous when you wanna turn left and it takes a sec or two to get the vehicle to respond! I'll report back next week. We should not have to buy aftermarket shit to fix a dealer problem!
 

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This problem most certainly is not turbo lag. I have no turbo. Lol. 2.0 6 speed manual. Very perceptible lag between pushing the pedal and the engine actually revving. I was thinking that better breathing might help by slightly reducing back pressure in the exhaust system but I'm convinced the problem is mostly in the programming. Does anyone know of a plug and play programmer on the market yet? I have used diablosport on my vehicles in the past and was always pleased with the results.
 

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My 2.0 has this "turbo lag" (but not the benefit of actually having a turbo). My daughter's 2007 Caliber 2.0 has also the same fly-by-wire throttle lag. There is an aftermarket box that remaps the throttle position for the 1.4 turbo, for 260 Euros. It also feels like the variable cam timing has robbed a little too much from the 1000 rpm to payoff the 5000 rpm debt. <<< Her Caliber leaves me in the dust... It's embarrassing. >>>
 
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